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Post by Jennifoofighter on Mar 11, 2009 15:21:27 GMT -5
[glow=green,2,300]*Warning: this is a Spoiler Free Zone* [/glow] Okay, so first let me begin by saying, erctheultimate, we were wrong to discount you and your fears. I seriously, never, ever, ever believed the show could be in danger but it seems based on the latest articles coming out we should have heeded your warnings. Please accept my apologies. Now, after thinking about the possibility that the show may - not will - but may be canceled, I'm not sure how I feel about it. Ausiello wrote, "what say you, Trace/Case fans? Are you going to let these shows go without a fight? Well, are you?" and I thought, I honestly don't know if I want to fight. I've been complaining about the characters I love continually getting the storyline shaft for over three years - be it ignored or way too rushed and shoved in randomly - that I'm not sure I'm willing to fight for a show if it continues on a path that irks me to no end. Maybe it will be better for me, a Martin and Danny fan, to let my boys go rather than see another season of them being treated miserably or ignored by the show's powers that be. I think that I might prefer that than another season of JS heavy stuff. If we fight will we see a return to quality storylines, compelling missing person cases, and fair treatment for the entire cast? Is my love of Eric Close and Enrique Murciano enough to make me want them to stay on the show or should I hope that after the show ends they get to go on to do bigger and greater things? I just don't know what I should do. What say you, DestinedTo? Are you gonna fight or take flight?
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Post by alkionisgirl on Mar 11, 2009 15:49:33 GMT -5
I have just read about the possible cancellation on a French site...horrible! >:-( If I lived in the USA I would definitely fight but unfortunately I live far far away! For me, no matter how worse WAT becomes, this series is not just a line of episodes I like, it's a whole part of my life! It's a lifestyle! I cannot imagine WAT being canceled, I can't let it go NOW! At least the authors should have the chance to finish the storylines, to make a happy end for Danny and Elena and to find somebody for Martin and to finish the J/S storyline in some way ( doesn't matter good or bad way). If episode 7#22 should be the last one ...whaaa!!!! I would make lots of money at my future work and then let a great well known producer and the actors make a another last season and I would be the writer *dream...* I believe that after this series Enrique and Anthony and Roselyn would get other great roles but I am not so sure about Poppy (and she is my favourite actrice, I like her even more than Jodie Forster although I know she Poppy is not "great") I WOULD FIGHT!!!
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Post by Jennifoofighter on Mar 11, 2009 15:54:04 GMT -5
If I lived in the USA I would definitely fight but unfortunately I live far far away! I'm pretty sure you can still send emails and campaign to keep the show on. So I encourage you to fight even if you feel that being in France you won't be counted as much. I think any sort of stance would help the cause. LOL. See that's my biggest reason to want it to stay on the air: I love this board and I can't imagine not updating or discussing the show or just chatting with the gang. I'd be fighting more for this board than the actual show.
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Post by alkionisgirl on Mar 11, 2009 16:03:31 GMT -5
You're right, I should at least try something, even if it doesn't count so much. Than I would know for myself that I did everything possible to stop the cancellation. And I must add I am a realist or even pessimist, so I think the show will be canceled anyway because from what I see just the real WAT fans, like you and me and all the others here, still watch this, as I must admit, usually boring uninteresting pointless episodes and storylines. The producers should hire excellent authors to save the show. I can understand you really well, Jennifer. You cannot lose this board and if did not have WAT I wouldn't know what to dream about in depressing or sad moments. And I would have any reason to turn on the TV or the computer because 90% of all sites I visit are WAT sites. And I need life and movement, I can't talk about or be a real fan of a dead series.
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Post by mimi on Mar 11, 2009 16:04:24 GMT -5
LOL. See that's my biggest reason to want it to stay on the air: I love this board and I can't imagine not updating or discussing the show or just chatting with the gang. I'd be fighting more for this board than the actual show. +1 It's a bad news here in France for the public channel France2 because it's airing these both shows with success and big audience. It's only while airing these shows that they are on top in audience. Otherwise, they loose against other channels... I don't know if I can say that here so Jen feel free to delete. I was wondering one thing...Apparently, Eric is the only one whose contract ends at the end of this season. Don't you think they could write off Martin ? They want cuts on the budget...Plus, I'm note sure EC is still enjoying acting in Wat because of the poor material they gave him. It's just a ( scary ) thought. Personally, I'd rather have the show cancelled than without Eric. Oh, I hate that whole situation. It remembers me JAG's cancellation.
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Post by alkionisgirl on Mar 11, 2009 16:11:03 GMT -5
Mimi, you're right that WAT and CC are the only chance of France2 to top TV1. The French just love this series. I cannot understand why other nations do not. Cut the budget...kill the writers!!! and hire us...I would work for free
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Post by mimi on Mar 11, 2009 16:13:26 GMT -5
Cut the budget...kill the writers!!! and hire us...I would work for free Me too. Time to send WB some résumes... ;D
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Post by Jennifoofighter on Mar 11, 2009 16:13:37 GMT -5
Don't you think they could write off Martin ? They want cuts on the budget...Plus, I'm note sure EC is still enjoying acting in Wat because of the poor material they gave him. It's just a ( scary ) thought. Personally, I'd rather have the show cancelled than without Eric. I thought about the chances that they just won't renew Eric's contract as well because it would be a money saver but I can guarantee that there are a few of us who would stop watching for that reason alone. Doesn't mean that they wouldn't consider going that route or that they wouldn't replace him with someone cheap but with mass appeal but they'd lose a viewer in me. I know I wouldn't have much reason to watch because the material they are giving to Danny isn't exactly enough to keep me tuning in. Besides, I like Danny and Martin together - as partners (get out of the gutter Annie2000) so without Martin.... they would really have to amp up Enrique's part in the show for me to want to watch. And even then.... still not sure....
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Post by Bright Eyes on Mar 11, 2009 16:16:51 GMT -5
I've had to take a few minutes to let the news sink in. And while I'm shocked, at the same time I'm not. We all have our theories as to why this is happening, so I'm not going to go there. As Jenn posted a little info about casting for Episode 22, I guess we can take it to be that they haven't started shooting yet, so it does leave time for changes to be made to the script. I would hate to see Eric go, but I agree with Mimi - I don't think he's been happy for some time now. And while the selfish part of me wants him on screen every week, I'd much rather know that he was feeling fulfilled in his career. (Hey, I love the guy )
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Post by marine on Mar 11, 2009 16:19:04 GMT -5
Hey guys, some friends of mine and I decided to send to CBS our thought about it, so go to CBS.com, then feedback and email them ! We have to tell them that it's a terrible new which will affect so much people!!! I think It's a good way to be heard. www.cbs.com/info/user_services/fb_global_form.php
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Post by mimi on Mar 11, 2009 16:26:48 GMT -5
I can guarantee that there are a few of us who would stop watching for that reason alone. Oh be sure, I'll be one of them too.
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Post by kira on Mar 11, 2009 16:32:26 GMT -5
I read it this evening in a spanish site and I got shocked. This is really serious, the possibility is very real. But after the shock, I thought exactly the same you thought, Jenn, that's why I just quoted your comment. This season has been pretty bad for the characters I take care the most, Danny and Martin. Well, things started going down for them from the beginning of season four. For a lover of this friendship, 'Safe' was the last dream, just coming back when Martin goes to his first NA meeting, and maybe a few more scenes but without the strength their plots had had in the past. This show had quality, had good cases, had interaction, had good balance between mp case and personal stuff... things I miss for a long time. I don't want a season 8 with Sam and Jack again. If I want a season 8 is to see more quality, more of what I miss... but they are talking about reducing costs.... what it means bad quality... again. I won't fight for it. I wish Eric and Enrique gets good tv-shows or movies where I can go on enjoying them. Unfortunately they won't be Martin and Danny anymore. But if I think about it, they aren't the Martin and Danny I loved yet.
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Post by Sharon on Mar 11, 2009 16:40:12 GMT -5
I have very mixed feelings. On one hand, I really want Season 8 and I am prepared for it to end after that.
On the other hand, I sometimes feel like I am ready for it to end now because it is such a shadow of its former self. I think I now watch out of habit.
Other than DestinedTo, I rarely visit the other boards anymore. The discussions have also degraded from intersting to just annoying with a lot of anger, frustration and a lot of hateful posts.
I would not like to see the any of the original cast dropped.
I think the actors all have futures and WAT certainly will add to their resumes. Sadly, as a minority here being an ALP fan, I am saddened because he has said he wants to retire, so his visibility will greatly diminish.
On the other hand, as a Jack fan, it is very hard to watch his character and the way his character has been destroyed for me.
So, mixed feelings, but will just have to wait and see.
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Post by Bright Eyes on Mar 11, 2009 16:51:03 GMT -5
I'm sure the producers will call a meeting with the cast and ask them if they are willing to make the changes CBS want.
Or, will the cast say, let's end the show now and avoid the indignity of cancellation?
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Post by MrsFitzgerald52 on Mar 11, 2009 16:52:35 GMT -5
I read it this evening in a spanish site and I got shocked. This is really serious, the possibility is very real. But after the shock, I thought exactly the same you thought, Jenn, that's why I just quoted your comment. This season has been pretty bad for the characters I take care the most, Danny and Martin. Well, things started going down for them from the beginning of season four. For a lover of this friendship, 'Safe' was the last dream, just coming back when Martin goes to his first NA meeting, and maybe a few more scenes but without the strength their plots had had in the past. This show had quality, had good cases, had interaction, had good balance between mp case and personal stuff... things I miss for a long time. I don't want a season 8 with Sam and Jack again. If I want a season 8 is to see more quality, more of what I miss... but they are talking about reducing costs.... what it means bad quality... again. I won't fight for it. I wish Eric and Enrique gets good tv-shows or movies where I can go on enjoying them. Unfortunately they won't be Martin and Danny anymore. But if I think about it, they aren't the Martin and Danny I loved yet. I read this when Jenn started this thread but I wanted to wait for awhile because I wanted to see everybody else's opinions to see how it's going at the moment but I agreed with you, Kira. I only watched the show because of Danny and Martin now and I will hate to see the show might be canceled and will be crying for days if Eric leaving the show because of budgets cuts that's going to come and for now it will be really hard for me to write more chapters for my fics this weekend because of this. Before all of those JS crap in the recent seasons, WaT was a really good show with it great quality, interactions, cases, the balance between work and personal, etc and if there will be an eighth and final season, I hope that all of those things will come back. If not, I am hoping that Eric or Enrique will get on another one and hope that the rest of their careers will go on smoothly .
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